Legislature(2011 - 2012)BARNES 124

02/04/2011 01:00 PM House RESOURCES


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01:05:38 PM Start
01:06:13 PM HCR2
01:10:11 PM HJR11
01:25:14 PM Overview: Department of Natural Resources - Division of Geological & Geophysical Surveys
02:02:37 PM Overview: Alaska Department of Fish & Game - Division of Wildlife Conservation
02:49:50 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HCR 2 RONALD REAGAN LANDMARK TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
*+ HJR 11 OPPOSING ANWR WILDERNESS DESIGNATION TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+ Overviews: TELECONFERENCED
Dept. of Fish & Game
- Division of Wildlife Conservation
Dept. of Natural Resources
- Division of Geological & Geophysical Surveys
          HJR 11-OPPOSING ANWR WILDERNESS DESIGNATION                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:10:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FEIGE  announced that the  next order of  business would                                                               
be  HOUSE  JOINT RESOLUTION  NO.  11,  Urging the  United  States                                                               
Congress  to refrain  from  passing  legislation that  designates                                                               
land  in Area  1002 of  the  Arctic National  Wildlife Refuge  as                                                               
wilderness.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:10:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CHARISSE   MILLETT,  Alaska   State  Legislature,                                                               
explained  that HJR  11 relates  the legislature's  opposition to                                                               
any  wilderness  designation  in  the  Arctic  National  Wildlife                                                               
Refuge (ANWR),  particularly in Area  1002.  With the  passage of                                                               
the Alaska  National Interest Lands Conservation  Act (ANILCA) in                                                               
the 1980s  the federal government  made a promise that  Area 1002                                                               
would  and  could  be  developed   for  oil  and  gas  resources.                                                               
Representative   Millett  informed   the   committee  that   ANWR                                                               
resolutions  and  legislation  are   the  main  topic  of  energy                                                               
discussions  in Congress.   A  notable resolution  that has  been                                                               
introduced  by Congressman  Markey  is H.R.  139, which  proposes                                                               
designating   [ANWR]  as   a  wilderness   area.     Furthermore,                                                               
Secretarial  Order 3310  basically  provides the  Bureau of  Land                                                               
Management  (BLM)   the  ability   to  make  a   wilderness  area                                                               
designation.   Representative Millet opined that  all of Alaska's                                                               
ANWR lands  are under  attack, but particularly  Area 1002.   She                                                               
pointed out that  a resolution, such as HJR 11,  provides for the                                                               
legislature's voice  to be heard.   She  noted that she  has been                                                               
assured that  these types of  resolutions make it into  the hands                                                               
of  those who  need  to  see them  and  relay  that Alaskans  are                                                               
environmentalists by  nature and  that the state's  resources are                                                               
developed in a careful and mindful manner.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:13:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HERRON related  his support for HJR  11, but asked                                                               
whether the sponsor  would accept [the inclusion]  of a "WHEREAS"                                                               
clause regarding national security.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT  said  she   would  be  amenable  to  the                                                               
addition of such a provision.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:13:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MUNOZ   inquired  as   to  the  status   of  U.S.                                                               
Congressman Markey's resolution.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT  related  that  usually  a  Congressional                                                               
resolution  supporting   the  opening   of  ANWR   garners  50-80                                                               
cosponsors,  which isn't  a lot.   However,  the concern  is that                                                               
every  year such  efforts gain  momentum.   She  noted that  such                                                               
Congressional action has  been stopped because of  the actions of                                                               
the Alaska State Legislature.  She  also noted that 78 percent of                                                               
Alaskans  are   in  favor  of   opening  ANWR   for  development.                                                               
Representative Millett said  that she could obtain  the status of                                                               
the Congressional legislation.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:14:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FEIGE opened public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:15:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADRIAN HERRERA,  Arctic Power, began  by informing  the committee                                                               
that he  is responsible for  running the Arctic Power  Offices in                                                               
Washington, D.C.,  and promoting the  environmentally responsible                                                               
opening of  ANWR, Area 1002,  to oil  and gas [development].   He                                                               
mentioned that  he has  been working in  this capacity  for about                                                               
six  years  now.   He  also  mentioned  that  Arctic Power  is  a                                                               
501(c)(6)  Alaska-based grass  roots organization  with the  sole                                                               
goal  of the  successful passage  of environmentally  responsible                                                               
oil  and  gas  development  legislation on  Capitol  Hill.    Mr.                                                               
Herrera then related  that Arctic Power strongly  supports HJR 11                                                               
and encourages  passage of it.   Arctic Power does its  upmost to                                                               
prevent  the passage  of legislation  proposing  to declare  Area                                                               
1002 as wilderness  lands.  It's important, he opined,  to have a                                                               
basis to argue  these points, which HJR 11  provides and codifies                                                               
in a manner  that's acceptable to Congress.   Resolutions such as                                                               
HJR 11 are  helpful when Arctic Power debates  these matters with                                                               
congressmen who disagree with Arctic Power's position.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:16:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HERRERA  highlighted the provision  of HJR 11 that  speaks to                                                               
the September  2010 announcement  by the  U.S. Fish  and Wildlife                                                               
Service  that  it  will  conduct   a  wilderness  review  in  its                                                               
environmental impact  statement (EIS)  regarding all  three areas                                                               
of ANWR:   refuge lands, wilderness lands, and Area  1002 that is                                                               
neither.  The opinion of the  Alaska attorney general, as well as                                                               
Arctic  Power,  is that  the  decision  to include  a  wilderness                                                               
review  is  in  direct  conflict with  ANILCA  and  the  National                                                               
Environmental  Policy  Act  (NEPA).     He  related  that  ANILCA                                                               
specifies that  no study for  removal or  any removal of  land in                                                               
Alaska   may   take   place   without   Congressional   approval.                                                               
Therefore,  Arctic   Power  believes  [the  EIS]   violates  that                                                               
principle.   With regard  to NEPA, when  considering an  EIS that                                                               
discusses  wilderness plans,  all alternative  land uses  must be                                                               
considered.   However, the U.S.  Fish & Wildlife  Service forbade                                                               
the discussion  of oil and gas  exploration in Area 1002  when it                                                               
heard  public testimony  last year.    The draft  report for  the                                                               
Comprehensive  Conservation Plan  (CCP) will  be submitted  April                                                               
2011 and  the final report  in April 2012.   He recalled  that it                                                               
has  been said  that fighting  this issue  on Capitol  Hill is  a                                                               
long-term process  due to the  checks and balances  of democratic                                                               
government.    However, if  it's  ever  declared wilderness,  the                                                               
process to  undo it would  be even more  difficult.  In  fact, he                                                               
personally  believes such  a designation  would be  impossible to                                                               
change.   Therefore, Arctic Power  strongly encourages  the state                                                               
to do  what it can to  fight legislation or reports  that prevent                                                               
the option of exploration in Area 1002.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:18:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MUNOZ  requested that Mr. Herrera  provide a brief                                                               
history regarding the  establishment of Area 1002 and  how it was                                                               
compromised in the ANWR legislation.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. HERRERA explained that in  1980 ANILCA was implemented, which                                                               
expanded what was  originally referred to as  the Arctic National                                                               
Wildlife  Range to  19.5 million  acres and  divided it  into the                                                               
existing three sections.  The  southern section was designated as                                                               
refuge lands as defined by  the National Wildlife Refuge Act, the                                                               
center/original section  was designated as wilderness  lands, and                                                               
Area 1002 that was neither  wilderness or refuge lands but rather                                                               
designated  as an  area  that  was set  aside  for  the study  of                                                               
potential oil  and gas exploration  and development.   The ANILCA                                                               
stipulated that it  was up to Congress to decide  and couldn't be                                                               
decided  by  national  monument  status  from  the  president  or                                                               
through  an administrative  act.   The study  took place  between                                                               
1980  and  1986 and  in  1986  the  first  report from  the  U.S.                                                               
Department  of Interior  recommended  development  of Area  1002.                                                               
Coincidentally, the  first ANWR CCP  by the U.S. Fish  & Wildlife                                                               
Services was released in 1986.   Therefore, between 1987 and 1995                                                               
there  was fairly  contentious debate.   In  1995 both  bodies of                                                               
Congress passed an act to allow  development of Area 1002, but it                                                               
was  vetoed  by   President  Clinton.    To   date,  12  pro-ANWR                                                               
development pieces of  legislation have passed the  U.S House and                                                               
3 such have passed  the U.S. Senate, for a total  of 15 pieces of                                                               
legislation that have  passed through Capitol Hill  in support of                                                               
the development of ANWR legislation.   Mr. Herrera said he didn't                                                               
recall  any   successful  passage  of  legislation   against  the                                                               
development of ANWR.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:21:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HERRON  asked  if  Arctic  Power  still  has  the                                                               
support of the community of Kaktovik.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. HERRERA replied  yes, adding his belief that  the majority of                                                               
the residents of Kaktovik support  this issue as does Mayor Annie                                                               
Tikluk.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:22:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HERRON   related  that   in  a  2007   League  of                                                               
Conservation  Voters  questionnaire,   President  Obama  said  he                                                               
strongly  rejects drilling  in the  refuge [ANWR].   He  asked if                                                               
there  have been  any other  documented statements  on ANWR  from                                                               
President Obama.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. HERRERA  offered his belief  that President  Obama's position                                                               
remains the same, although he  hasn't made many direct statements                                                               
on ANWR in  the past few years.   Of note, December  6, 2010, was                                                               
ANWR's  50th  anniversary and  there  was  a  large push  by  the                                                               
environmental movement  to support  national monument  status for                                                               
ANWR.   Letters  promoting the  aforementioned were  sent to  the                                                               
White House,  but there  was no response  other than  stating the                                                               
need  to  review  all  alternative  energies  when  devising  the                                                               
nation's energy  plan.  He opined  that the lack of  comment from                                                               
the White House and the president is a significant message.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:24:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FEIGE, upon ascertaining no  one else wished to testify,                                                               
closed public testimony.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:24:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P. WILSON moved to  report HJR 11 out of committee                                                               
with individual recommendations and  the accompanying zero fiscal                                                               
note.  There being no objections,  HJR 11 was reported out of the                                                               
House Resources Standing Committee.                                                                                             

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HJR 11 Sponsor Statement.pdf HRES 2/4/2011 1:00:00 PM
Patton Boggs Study ANWR.PDF HRES 2/4/2011 1:00:00 PM
H.R. 139 Rep. Markey.pdf HRES 2/4/2011 1:00:00 PM
H.R. 49 Rep. Young.pdf HRES 2/4/2011 1:00:00 PM
Arctic Power H.R. 49.pdf HRES 2/4/2011 1:00:00 PM
Central Arctic Caribou Herd.pdf HRES 2/4/2011 1:00:00 PM
ANWR resolutions talking points.doc HRES 2/4/2011 1:00:00 PM
HCR2 Bill Packet.pdf HRES 2/4/2011 1:00:00 PM
HJR 11 CACFA WSR Comments.pdf HRES 2/4/2011 1:00:00 PM
HJR 11 - RDC Letter of Support.pdf HRES 2/4/2011 1:00:00 PM
HJR011A.PDF HRES 2/4/2011 1:00:00 PM
HJR11 Arctic Power Letter of Support.pdf HRES 2/4/2011 1:00:00 PM
HJR 11 Letter of Support Alliance.PDF HRES 2/4/2011 1:00:00 PM
HJR 11 CACFA Scoping Comments.pdf HRES 2/4/2011 1:00:00 PM
DGGS house resources overview_2011_Final.pdf HRES 2/4/2011 1:00:00 PM
HJR 11 - Opposing ANWR Wild Desig.pdf HRES 2/4/2011 1:00:00 PM
HCR 2 - Ronald Reagan Landmark.pdf HRES 2/4/2011 1:00:00 PM
DWC Overview 2011 Final Version.pdf HRES 2/4/2011 1:00:00 PM